If I use a VPN, can I still access TikTok if it's banned in the United States?

Like I can set my iP address in a different country that allows Tik Tok :man_shrugging:

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Maybe. And if so, maybe for a while. And it won’t really be the same.

So even if the VPN works, and it likely would, there would be no app updates coming for your device, and at some point the app on your device will be so hopelessly out of date that it might not connect anymore.

But the other thing is this: you probably have some favorite US-based creators. They won’t be getting paid for their content anymore, so even if they could post, most of them won’t. And no VPN can fix that.

According to this article

If it is banned, TikTok plans that users attempting to open the app will see a pop-up message directing them to a website with information about the ban, the people said, requesting anonymity as the matter is not public.

“We go dark. Essentially, the platform shuts down,” TikTok lawyer Noel Francisco told the Supreme Court last week.

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Shutting down TikTok in the U.S. could make it unavailable for users in many other countries, the company said in a court filing last month, because hundreds of service providers in the U.S. help make the platform available to TikTok users around the world - and could no longer do so starting Sunday.

TikTok said in the court filing an order was needed to “avoid interruption of services for tens of millions of TikTok users outside the United States.”

TikTok had said that the prohibitions would eventually make the app unusable, noting in the filing that “data centers would almost certainly conclude that they can no longer store” TikTok code, content, or data.

The sources said the shutdown aims to protect TikTok service providers from legal liability and make it easier to resume operations if President-elect Donald Trump opted to roll back any ban.

Shutting down such services does not require longer planning, one of the sources said, noting that most operations have been continuing as usual as of this week. If the ban gets reversed later, TikTok would be able to restore service for U.S. users in a relatively short time, sources said.

It certainly sounds like TikTok expects the ban to result in TikTok shutting down worldwide.

Sure, if you can VPN into some other country that doesn’t have it banned. But the thing is, it means US content creators aren’t going to make money off it and their views are going to plummet, so in the long run the number of American users is likely to slowly wither until there are hardly any left. Unless ByteDance changes its mind and sells, anyway. They say they have no intention of doing that.

Unless TikTok chooses to exclude Americans you shouldn’t even need that. I don’t think the isps are required to do any sort of blocking based on the wording of the ban.

Most likely, yes. Hard to say for sure until the ban is implemented and people put theory into practice.

I should look into buying VPN stocks.

It’ll probably be possible, but TikTok will never be the same. Short-form video will move to a new platform - which one it’ll move to remains to be seen.

No body knows, it depends how they implement the ban. Everybody saying “yes” it’s just guessing.

Yeah but its probably better for you mental health if you don’t that stuff really rapidly degenerates your mind

Yes, you would just have to make sure the other end of the VPN comes out in a different country, probably Canada since they’re the geographically and culturally most similar country and the content you get wont assume you’re in China or something and give you Chinese videos.

You would also have to install and update the app while on the VPN.

I don’t think the isps are required to do any sort of blocking based on the wording of the ban.

The PAFACA bans US-based web hosting services (ISPs) and app stores from hosting, maintaining, or updating the app. There’s some ambiguity over what “hosting” and “maintaining” are interpreted to mean here, but it sounds like TikTok is taking this to mean no traffic from the US at all.

TikTok has also said that they’re planning on shutting down their US servers when the ban takes effect. So even if ISPs aren’t specifically banned, TikTok is shutting down the servers they’d be connecting you to.

I mean same thing is said about TV and other things. TikTok isn’t really much different. Only difference is if you’re watching educational stuff or not

Saying this on reddit of all places is wild :sweat_smile:

An isp isn’t a web hosting service a server is. The only thing preventing you from connecting to a non us server would be TikTok themselves.

Short format videos are terrible. The best of YouTube are longer videos. Youtube is an improvement over TV, and TikTok is way worse than TV.