Is TOR still safe and anonymous in 2023 and should I be using a VPN with it?

I have used TOR since I was 14 in 2012. I am unsure if it’s still secure as it used to be though

sidebar apparently just isnt visible enough

Tor + VPN?

This is a very frequently asked question we see in this subreddit. You generally do not need to use a VPN in conjunction with Tor, and you may even hurt your anonymity by doing so. However, a VPN may help if Tor is censored by your network. Please see the Tor Wiki for more details.

If using a normal OS, use a VPN to protect normal traffic. And if you want to use Tor Browser, do Tor Browser over VPN (leave VPN running as usual, then later launch Tor Browser).

In “Tor Browser over VPN” configuration, VPN doesn’t help or hurt Tor Browser, and VPN helps protect all of the non-Tor-Browser traffic (from services, cron jobs, other apps) coming out of your system while you’re using Tor Browser (and after you stop using Tor Browser). Using a VPN and letting the VPN company see some info is better than letting your ISP see the same info, because the ISP knows more about you. So leave the VPN running 24/365, even while you’re using Tor Browser. [PS: I’m talking about running TB in a normal OS; Tails or another all-traffic-goes-over-Tor setup is a different situation.]

That said, neither VPN nor Tor/onion are magic silver bullets that make you safe and anonymous. VPN mainly protects your traffic from other devices on same LAN, from router, and from ISP. Also hides originating IP address from destination web sites. Tor/onion does same, but only for Tor browser traffic; also adds more hops to make it harder to trace back from the destination server to your original IP address, and also mostly forces you into using good browser settings. Both VPN and Tor/onion really protect only the data in motion; if the data content reveals your private info, the destination server gets your private info.

Go to r/torwithvpn for your 2nd question

tor is old any agency can track u in one second move on

Is use tor from a virtual machine and it usually gives me a different IP

Honestly I aways use Tor with a VPN because if i picked right with the VPN and its no logs, the VPN shields my origional IP, from a maliscious Guard relay.

Also, a vpn can help prevent deanonymization, because the full Tor path plus VPN with shared IP means correlating who on the vpn server initiated the Tor connection is uncertain.

If your VPN is good: then i believe it helps with anonymity. Also imagine your VPN server, 5 people on your VPN server your connected to might also be using Tor, increasing anonymity with the shared vpn server IP.

You should read this. Can I use a VPN with Tor? | Tor Project | Support

Use Tor and Vpn
Also learn how to use tails, it’s the best

I’m sure it’s gotten worse over time.

Yeah I dont use Reddit a lot sorry I just checked the rules and didn’t see anything sorry

I’ve always read that free vpn does not work unless you pay for it, of which, that means you have to go and use crypto currency to hide that you’re trying to hide something I would figure. Currency is tracked otherwise, what’s the point? Even if that’s not an issue I never see a seamless way to try out vpn plus Tor as any time I’ve searched places like reddit for a free vpn everyone says “lol pay for it” for years and years so i just never have tried vpn and are now in my mid 30s. I don’t know how to use vpn much less vpn plus tor and paying to try something doesn’t motivate me much, especially when it’s pure retail. It’s being asked about because it’s convoluted, the entire situation. Even as you yourself point out wiki’s tell you not to as it’s dangerous and should be overkill, not really because Tor isn’t working on it’s own anymore, but yeah. Vpn, crypto currency, even getting Tor to work to begin with on some broken Linux, it’s all far too tiring.

I’m posting from my phone so yeah indeed the sidebar is not

Great answer. They caught Dread Pirate Roberts (Ross) because he didn’t use a vpn and he connected to a tor server at the university when he was the only user on the network.

True story…Updated lol

Theres no info there lol

I always used NordVPN with tor and I never had an issue I’ve had knowledge about

What if you log in to Reddit? What happens then?

I can never find this side bar they talk about but im always reading on my phone on reddit

he connected to a tor server at the university when he was the only user on the network.

That was someone else. Ross didn’t go to university at the time.

Yeah i use kali wen im on it tho soo idk if that makes a difference