I can sync my photos with Proton Drive app for Android. Isn’t it also available on iOS? The only thing refrains me from getting the paid plan is that there isn’t a Linux app.
Addy Pro let you 20 custom domains vs SImpleLogin included in Unlimited plan gives you 5.
Do you really need more then 5? Addy pro costs additional 3$ so if you go unlimited for 2 years (8$ as i remember) vs mail pro + addy (7$?) it almost the same and still you have some additions like VPN,Drive, ProtonPass if you dont have another password manager
I’m curious what features you need to considerate PM like a “lack” product.
The problem is that Proton is not perfect but other services are worse. So there’s not many alternatives.
Not that way. Of course you may have domain configured only in SL and use but I think this it is best way.
First of all you should consider if you want to have your aliases in subdomain or another domain.
I am using subdomain so I configured MX on SL for mail.mydomain.xx and MX on Proton for mydomain.xx
While creating alias on SL there are rule like:
If mail comes to [email protected] redirect it to [email protected]
Your core address is hidden while using alias. You can also consider to not use adres and hide your main domain.
Both cant access the same “path” like “domain.xx” or “mail.domain.xx” because MX records tells directly where to route your incomming mail.
It is not yet available on iOS, but we’re working on it.
Private Internet Access. There was some debate about the future of the company when it was bought, but so far it’s remained solid for me.
I’m curious what features you need to considerate PM like a “lack” product.
Ability to double-click a message to open in a new browser window so I can compare two or more messages side-by-side without manually starting a new browser session to Proton. Ability to pop-out the compose and reply to new windows so I can copy/paste from other messages. A message preview pane. Attachment previews for common file types. Better message body formatting options, including multiple indent/list levels, embedded tables and embedded images. Message templates and forms. Ability to flag outgoing messages as important and show importance flags on the inbox list. Receive receipts (acknowledged by the server). Ability to flag messages for follow-up and specify a follow-up date. Indicator for PGP-encrypted email in folder views. Indicator for PGP-encrypted email with attachments in folders. Ability to sort by any field. Ability to search by attachment name. Ability to specify search keywords in the search box (i.e., from:user date:01/01/24-01/30/24 attachment:“contract”). Ability to search message contents without waiting for email content to download. Ability to change UI layout, fonts and spacing. An easy method to move messages from my online folders to local files, with optional password protection. Ability to use alternative email clients via POPS/IMAPS/SMTPS without relying on Bridge. Native desktop apps. Better Android/IOS apps. Contact manager in the web UX. Improved contact management on Android. Contacts integration with other Android apps, or sync to Android contacts. Better calendar UI. ToDo/Task List. CalDav/ICS support. Linux desktop client.
The problem is that Proton is not perfect but other services are worse. So there’s not many alternatives.
Worse is subjective. ProtonMail has the interface and feature set of an email application from the early 1990’s. That might be worth overlooking if everyone used Proton or a similar provider, but that’s not the current reality. Once email leaves Proton for Apple, Microsoft, Google or others, unless you specifically use Proton’s secure email feature, those privacy and security benefits are forfeit, but all the UX shortcomings still exists.
You probably don’t care if you do a dozen or so personal emails a day, but when you’re doing 75+ business emails it can be very frustrating and counter-productive.
Thank you very much for the explanation. I was hoping for full integration between both, but I guess that way is more logic.
Can we use the Plus package with the existing pm.me addresses?
ProtonMail has the interface and feature set of an email application from the early 1990’s.
Personally disagreeing very much. Proton has come a very long way since 2014. Honestly I had troubles using Proto in the early days (and I’d have agreed to the quote above), however now since the v4 came out some years back, for me it is perfectly fine.
There’s a difference like day and night.
At the same time, one has to always think of privacy ↔ usability. I always imagine it like a scale, where privacy is on one side and usability on the other. While an unencrypted provider has a huge usability, privacy isn’t existing. Encrypted providers try to balance that out.
While I didn’t read the full list of your lacking features above (it is unreadable in its format, please use bullet points), some points are clearly based on unencrypted email providers which will not find its way into an encrypted email provider.
If you have such needs, you might want to look at email providers providing these. Honestly speaking, excecting a full gmail/outlook features set but for an encrypted provider which is totally working different (and based on your contribution I assume you’d know that) isn’t realistic.
Once email leaves Proton for Apple, Microsoft, Google or others, unless you specifically use Proton’s secure email feature, those privacy and security benefits are forfeit, but all the UX shortcomings still exists.
That is only half of the story. Any data the provider doesn’t have is improving your digital footprint.
the same way as for root domain.
MX for subdomain.domain.xx
DKIM CNAME for dkim.subdomain
TXT SPF for subdomain.domain.xx
TXX DMARC for _dmarc.subdomain
I am glad if it would help you - if not, feel free to ask
You cant have the same domain (subdomain are allowed) on 2 different services because MX records for your domain tells where “internet” should route mails that have been sent to you - then with same domain where those mails would go - to SL or Proton?
Both services are in possession of Proton but they are 2 different services.
Proton has come a very long way since 2014. Honestly I had troubles using Proto in the early days (and I’d have agreed to the quote above), however now since the v4 came out some years back, for me it is perfectly fine.
It may have come a long way, but it still has a long way to go before it is as powerful as something like Outlook, Gmail or Thunderbird.
At the same time, one has to always think of privacy ↔ usability. I always imagine it like a scale, where privacy is on one side and usability on the other.
However, they are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I listed 29 items above, and perhaps 5 of them would have any impact on privacy or security. If you’re not willing to read the list before refuting my post then I’m not going to debate it with you.
And what about that integration with proton pass? It recognizes the domains in simple login? Uses the email ones?
Can you start an email in proton from an alias, whether it is on mail or on simple login?
Thanks
I am more than willing to read if it is formatted with bulletpoints. Like it is I cannot read it, sorry.
I am not using Proton Pass, this product currently doesnt meet all my requirements. I am using 1Password. I Create alias in FIrefox Extension for Simple login, put it in register form, generate password with 1Password with extension and autosave my data to 1Password.
You can start mailing from alias on simple login → just read the docs. SimpeLogin docs are seems to be great.