NordVPN quietly changed a 2017 blog post to note that it will comply with lawful requests for data and log customer activity if ordered so
A minute of silence for the “no 5/14 eyes” warriors and those locked in 2 years subscriptions
Nordvpn said that they could not reject a court decision but also reminds that none vpn provider can
But if so…welcome tor
I’m not defending Nord, but it’s good to be wary that VPN companies as a business with people, cannot be fully trusted.
Some you can trust more than others. At the end of the day, with a VPN you are only depending on someone’s word. No logs, completely privacy, and protecting you is not Law. The government and law enforcement has many means to coerce anyone. Financially, blackmailing, threatening, jail, or other means.
I don’t think anyone will stand up for somebody they don’t even know engaging in activity worthy of Law Enforcement attention. They will be thrown under the bus, Nord, PIA, Mullvad, IVPN or any of them. Not one will defend you if it means going to jail, being fined, or shutting down a business.
I think they are all pretty much the same. Be careful and don’t invest too much trust.
Decentralized and automated mechanisms like TOR are the only ways to be fully sure and secure. Or setting up your own.
Yup at the end of the day most VPN providers push or shove will toss customers under the bus. Here’s to those who have integrity 
and will pull the warrant canary and watch there ship go down rather than toss there customers under the train and hide behind TOS agreements.
Yeah, I will be changing providers. Which on do you recommend? Mullvad?
Any mainstream VPN service that gets a big enough user base will eventually do this, no matter where they are located or what they claim to offer in terms of “privacy is a universal right.” Governments just wait till the specific service has enough users and then puts pressure. Done. Easy…
Well it’s a business and, being so, must comply with the law. At least that’s the theory. Do you honestly expect any of these concerns to man the barricades and sacrifice itself when the FBI, or any other collection of uppercase characters, shows up at the door with a warrant?
Isn’t Nord a VPN with no logs?
I just purchased mulvad, without any research.
Yeah it doesn’t matter where the vpn is located at the end of the day government can and will do anything to get someone
If you keep no logs, then you can comply with the court order and show you have nothing about the person. Similar to what Signal did when a Californian Court asked for details about a suspect they were investigating.
Mullvad gang is coming.
I use SurfShark. I have good torrent speeds and they do not keep logs.
Not to mention that such concern is an overkill for the torrenting threat model. I mean, even NordVPN or PIA should be fine for raising a good enough legal barrier against copyright holders - we just don’t recommend them for other reasons (eg. poor performance and ethics).
Will this affect me? I just use my VPN to watch porn and Netflix shows in other countries
May i see the no logging evidence of Mullvad?
Whatever; what’s the consensus, who’s the best
I agree and i wasn’t pointing them out agaist torrenting, but all community that thinks that somehow they are safe just because there vpn is not in a 5/14 eyes country. Torrenting should be fine but true privacy not so much