Why did everyone abandon the Uyghurs?

It seems that everyone stopped condemning china about the xinjiang genocide. Why is this the case? Why have even the governments of Turkic States gone silent? Some Muslims on the internet even help China deny the genocide. What is going on? How much hush money did China pay for them all to zip their lips?

We haven’t, at least not academics and activists. It’s just it’s almost impossible to get in touch with Uyghurs or get an entry visa to China to do any research or conduct interviews.

That is how the world works sadly. Remember Tibet twenty years ago? Outrages come and go. It’s viewed as an internal Chinese affair, so as long as it doesn’t threaten international trade and finances, other governments don’t care all that much, because they can’t really stop it, and they don’t want to threaten their relationship and trade with China for essentially no benefits in return. And people grow tired of not being able to do anything about it either, and there is always the next outrage to focus on. It is easier to organize memorials and be sad later than to interrupt, interfere and intervene now.

First of all, for uyghur issue there are heavy government propagandas on both sides (China vs mostly US and several US-aligned western countries). As a counter example, for Israel-Palestine issue, it’s mostly Israel propaganda vs social network information. The latter is easier for people to get onboard with because people don’t trust government propagandas. The US not being 100% consistent regarding China vs Israel makes it harder for people to accept the accusations from the US.

Secondly, there seems to be scarce evidence of uyghur being massacred. There are claims, but the claims are inconsistent, and jumped from physical genocide to cultural genocide and then to oppression, seemingly defending on if the audience accepts the previous claim. There are clearer evidences for oppression, but it’s harder to differentiate those oppression from similar ones in the west, given that China doesn’t have good human rights for general population. Just as an example, while the accusation on sterilizing Uyghur women is lamentable, China has sterilized the Han population much more heavily due to birth policy.

Thirdly, even there’s evidence of oppression, while this can be an issue, it does pale, if ignoring propagandas, in comparison to violence and massacres that can be witnessed and recorded. People are rational enough to know the different levels of severity between theft, burglary, rape and murder, not to mention the difference in the amount of evidences.

Lastly, people are able to travel to Xinjiang and some of them do have contrary observations to the genocide accusation. This further makes it harder for people come to agreement. You can argue those are paid propagandas, but at the end of the day you have to prove which propagandas are false and which ones are trustworthy, because it’s all about one side against another.

Because even uygurs of Kazakhstan don’t care about it mostly, then what can we do? In Kazakhstan only few people also speak about Kazakhs in this camps, only when they mention about it I also think about Uyghurs

It seems that everyone stopped condemning china about the xinjiang genocide. Why is this the case?

It’s because you’re talking about China…it’s an economic powerhouse & every publication and govt wants to be in their good books.

How much hush money did China pay for them all to zip their lips?

Here…!! :backhand_index_pointing_up: You’ve answered your question itself.
The Chinese Govt knows how to use money.

You’ll see a few videos or publications talk about it but…they don’t matter. But the majority wouldn’t. And that’s what it takes to keep the matter silent.

Because there’s not enough “real” evidence about the Uyghur imprisonments in Xinjiang. I think there were only some photos leaked by a German journalist that presented only a small portion of life in those camps, otherwise, we only have witness testimonies. This is in strong contrast with Israel where the reality of the brutal occupation in the West Bank and the destruction of Gaza can be shared by any person with a smartphone, including by IDF soldiers who can’t stop uploading their own war crimes.

As every single other comment has confirmed with their biases it’s because the world is obsessed with Israel. They do not care about actual concentration camps built by China or actual genocides taking place in the rest of the Middle East, Africa or Southeast Asia. Even if it is fellow Muslims as the victims (and often perpetrators), they just don’t care because the Jews are not involved. That is the only answer that makes sense. It applies to Muslims worldwide as well as the western world.

Because:

  1. Nobody can do anything about it against China

  2. China has a massive bot network that denies it is happening, as seen in this thread

Leftists in the West (the group in the West who is most likely to be advocating for justice) are overcorrecting for western anti-China propaganda.

I mean… honestly, I didn’t even KNOW until last month. And, while I’ve been upset, outraged, and broken by it, I can’t seem to convince anyone around me (IRL) that it’s REAL, because of “liberal propaganda”.

I hate it here.

But I’m sure I’d hate it much more, there.

The world is fucked up.

You cannot turn a blind eye on Israel committing hard core genocide to people in a sovereign country named Palestine, while meanwhile accusing China of doing bad things to people in its own province. Yes, those things are very bad and shouldn’t be allowed to do, but they don’t kill people outright. Seriously, we should condemn both.

Fun fact: People tend to believe what they see more than they read about and hear from others. If you want more outrage, provide more photographic and videographic evidence. It’s simple. If videos of death and destruction weren’t coming out of Gaza everyday, nobody would believe it. We have all seen how the highest ranking Israeli politicians talk about Palestinians with very explicitly genocidal intent. In fact, just yesterday Smotrich said he aims to reduce Gazas population by half in just 2 years. All you need to do is provide the evidence and people will believe.

the tankies told us there’s no proof.

Central Asian countries 1) have 0 power and 2) don’t care

Because by now everyone knows this whole Uyghur issue is just another western propaganda attempt to accuse China of a something completely imaginary. For example the west said Uyghurs are forced to work as slave labours in XJ cotton fields when in reality most of the farmers there have already switched to automation. Even the so called concentration camp BBC visited turned out to be just a factory. But the west continue to repeat the same lie over and over because eventually some idiots will believe any negative news about China to be true. Tell me one example in history where tourism is flourishing when a so called genocide is taking place. Whereas the real genocide that’s happening now is in Gaza are largely ignored by the west and are still supplying weapons to the Zionist government to continue its massacre of Palestinians.

Part of it is that the crackdown is mostly over by this point, and most if not all of the camps were closed by 2019, 2020-ish. The peak of the crackdown was in 2017, which is why that’s when the rest of the world took the most notice then. It is difficult to find more material to support the cause going now simply because there is much less new evidence than before.

Because they were condemning for the purpose of political gain and not for the good of the Uyghurs. The big blowups come and go when convenient to get some points. Like in the U.S, its a good way to show your tough on China.

Add Tibetans to the list.

Because they are muslims